Fewer offensive turnovers will automatically make the Eagles a better defensive team in 2012...

Written by Thomas Jackson on .

The good news--- a pretty decent rookie camp just concluded.

The sobering spin--- it's the veteran players on the roster who will need to step up on Defense.

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DE Brandon Graham has got to perk up and smile less, according to our resident GateKeeper Brizer...

It's not enough that the Eagles added so many high-end defensive players in this year's NFL Draft, after acquiring accomplished middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans in a trade...

Nick Fierro's pointing the finger at four guys specifically--- his take from the Allentown Morning Call---The only way for the team to be truly better and have a championship-level defense is for some of the returning veterans to play better, specifically cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, defensive end Brandon Graham and safeties Jaiquawn Jarrett and Kurt Coleman.

Fierro's negative take on Nnamdi is something I'm hearing more and more around the village, and it goes like this: "Asomugha did little during the 2011 season to confirm the notion that he still is an elite player. While it is true he was thrust into unfamiliar zone coverages by then-new defensive coordinator Juan Castillo, he failed just as often in his more familiar bump-and-run role in single coverage. If he has a bounce-back year, the signing is justified. If not, don't look for him to be starting very much longer."

UPDATE--- Our astute observer Brozer-8 got an early comment in on that rather harsh judgement vs. Asomugha prior to my final edit this morning... and he correctly pointed out the situation was actually way more complicated than the average flamethrower could know--- that Nnamdi played pretty well at doing what he does if you grade the tape... and that Fierro's harsh judgement on Asomugha should really be directed at DRC...which is a valid point from several coaching and playing perspectives. Seeing as Fierro and Broz both played the game at at least a secondary school or college level, I decided to present both views...But I'm leaning to the probability that Broz has watched way more game film than Fierro.

I can't argue too much with the balance of Fierro's take on the other three guys he's targeted:

"Graham is a player coach Andy Reid and general manager Howie Roseman have done nothing but rave about in this offseason, saying how much better he looks compared to last season, when he was still supposedly feeling the effects of a knee injury the year before. As Reid likes to say, we'll see. Graham insisted right up to the end last season that his knee was not an issue, but the Eagles rarely threw him into the rotation. We'll know this year what was really up."

"Jarrett was a rookie who really seemed lost without the benefit of minicamps because of the lockout and could not come close to taking a job that was open for him. Reid admitted earlier this month that Jarrett was "thinking too much." That, or not enough. Again, we'll know a lot better by the end of this summer."

"Coleman had tremendous production at times but too often whiffed on tackles. The good news is that it wasn't because of fear. The bad news is that it might have been due to limited ability." No, Nick did not just say that!

 Leo Pizzini likes Coleman... so I am biting my tongue...But I do agree with the general "perk up" spirit of Fierro's defensive conclusion, if not his metrics of judgement.

With all the question marks about some of the returning players as well as two possible new starters (Ryans and Mychal Kendricks) at linebacker, there is plenty this unit has to prove.

But in the interest of journalistic balance, I must point out: the Eagles Defense in 2011 was not as horrible as you may remember...

While the Eagles' defense wasn't perfect, it should have been good enough with the way the Eagles were able to move the ball on offense. But the tragic amount of offensive turnovers they suffered last year single-handedly ruined their season. The offense ended up sending mixed signals to the defense, moving the ball like a team that scores a ton of points but then failing to produce results. The defense became a team that would be good for a team that could score---- and ended up becoming the scapegoat when the offense faltered.

This is not to say the defense was elite. It was far from it, and with all of the moves the front office has done in 2012, the defense should show marked improvement next season. But the idea that it was the defense that ruined the Eagles' 2011 season is just flat-out not true. It was the offense's propensity to commit turnovers that not only hindered their scoring but also put the defense between a rock and a hard place...many times.

According to Matt Harkenreader of Bleeding Green Nation, it boils down to this:

"On paper, the Eagles additions in defensive personnel most definitely put them in a position to improve next season. Of course, 'on paper' does not always translate perfectly into reality, so we'll have to wait like we do with everything else. The offensive side of the ball is a little more difficult to put a finger on. Turnovers aren't really quantifiable in the NFL; you can't get a new coach or new players and call the problem 'fixed'. A problem like that rests solely on the mentality of the players. It's up to people like Michael Vick, responsible for around twenty of the Eagles thirty-eight turnovers, to take a hard look in the mirror and notes on film to improve their play."

"The good news is that the Law of Averages suggests the Eagles should commit fewer turnovers next season. But that alone may not be good enough; it will probably take individual effort on the part of the players to really solve the problem. With an improving defense that was already 'good enough' last season, a commitment by the players to become great and improve upon their faults may be sufficient to field a team in September that could be fighting to hoist the Lombardi Trophy next February."

Well, I won't argue with that. That's the kind of spirit we need around here. It's the perfect "perk up!" moment on a dreary Wednesday in May...



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Brozer8
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I've been doing sumputin' pretty cool for the last 30 mins:  There was this giant fly in my kitchen...that has been buzzing around and pissing me off all night.  Welp, I'd finally had enough, and decided to kick it's ass, no fly-swatter, just mano-v-mano style....except dat one of the mano's was a fly.  So every time he buzzed by me, I tried to smack him...except by the time my hand got to where he was....he wasn't there anymore.  He had some good quicks.

 

So I decided that some anticipation was needed:  Instead of trying to smack where he was, I would throw a full blown haymaker at the spot where I thought he would be.  So for about 10 minutes...I was throwing punches that would kill a normal man.  Finally...finally....that fly guessed wrong, and flew to the exact spot, where my fist was traveling at 100 mph. 

 

I hit him right in the nose....and he dropped like a fly....dead.

 

I wonder what that little bug felt like to fly straight into a punch like that, from a being that weighed a million times what it did.

 

Proably what Bri would feel like....if I punched HIM right in the face.  Whoozewiffme ?!?!?

n.akuatuta
n.akuatuta

 @Brozer8 rofl. there should be a compilation of the best stories told by you all on here. this one, with the fly being a 'he', and having a nose, is quite funny.

tboned208
tboned208

@Brozer8 Superfly jimmy Brozer

PPW
PPW

@Brozer8 That's a great story! Are you in the same mindset as you were when you designed the deck?

TheGreatJB99
TheGreatJB99

What the hell!?!?!?

 

The Thunder were down 7... and I went in to wizz... and pop a zip er two... and when I got back... the Thunder were up one.

Jerky
Jerky

Welp, it's been real!

 

(real boring)

 

Catch you cats on the flip side.

Blasphemizer
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@Jerky Boring?...The Bored is only ever what you make of it...

Brozer8
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 @Blasphemizer  @Jerky

 I use it for masturbatory porpoises myselve.

 

Jerky's avi's....and Bri wearing lingerie....it's pretty tittylating.

Jerky
Jerky

Ghost town up in here. quirk up!

Palm Feathers
Palm Feathers

Gonna stop watching them - I'm bad luck

Sixers can't hit a basket

Blasphemizer
Blasphemizer

Need to tighten up in the middle...Can't let Pierce drive like that...

PPW
PPW

 @Blasphemizer Hey Blas! How you doin?

Blasphemizer
Blasphemizer

@PPW Just fine...Thanks for asking...How you doing?...

PPW
PPW

@Blasphemizer Good man!

Harry Pianos
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Well, I'm off to do weight training for my biceps and triceps (us work out types call them bi's and tri's, for future reference)....off to da gymnasium!

 

 

Be good to yourself....and others....

Jerky
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A young boy walks into a brothel holding a dead frog. He asks the lady at the front desk "Where is your nastiest most diseased whore?" She points down the hall to the last door on the right, then asks "Why do you wanna screw her and what's with the frog?" So the boy says "I am going to screw the whore, then I am going to screw my babysitter who will then screw my father who will screw my mother who screws the mailman who will screw our maid; and that's the Bitch who ran over my frog!"

Palm Feathers
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 @Jerky 

See what I mean ??!!

 

How can ANYONE not want Jerky around?

Palm Feathers
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I mean - not that it's my business but how the H*ll can Jerky get banned? You're one of the more Positive and Intelligent posters I've read.

 

They banned BRI for God's sake !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

How can you ban someone that you only understand 38% of what they're saying ????

 

 

Harry Pianos
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Remember when Bri organized that raid a while back, and you briefly went AWOL on us?  Well, it kinda looked like that every day, only worse....So, they started banning folks in an effort to clean up the joint and improve the "product"....and we all know how that turned out....

Palm Feathers
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 @Harry Pianos 

Truth - I didn't go AWOL - I got P*ssed at folks here. When that 1st went down I thought "let me go look at what they're talking about".

The night I went on there - they were verbally beating the SNOT out of them. 

 

I over-reacted. I do that sometimes - don't mean to - it's just me.

 

I've looked in there a few times since (don't post there) and I admit - I've had a chance of opinion. Most of them need the snot whacked out of them.

 

 

Bruzer
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 @Palm Feathers Dey crossed da lesbian line,..i tried to stop Christina Lurie from da ban,..especially since da jokes bombed,...i have had better luck stopping a food riot in progress,...

Palm Feathers
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 @Bruzer 

Now - I could see getting banned for poking one of the management's wives - something like that.

Palm Feathers
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On a more serious side - Banning - 

 

Short of absolute filth being posted by someone (and I got a few candidates that walk right up to the line)

 

any entity or org that can not deal with differences or things they don't want to hear by 'Banning' is showing utter helplessness and insecurity.

 

Moron's that go along to get along will dilute something out of existence.

 

OK - I'm done

 

 

Harry Pianos
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 @Palm Feathers The time of the bannings was a dark time for PE.com....dark time indeed....seems like it was longer than a year ago....I used to miss it, but notsomuch anymore.....cuz it kinda sucks there now, and Lupes has made a nice home for us here....

Bruzer
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 @Palm Feathers Yah,...real men und cyborgs police demselves,.. banning is for vimmen und chidden,...dambru.

Jerky
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Dyslexic man walks into a bra...

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Blasphemizer
Blasphemizer

 @Palm Feathers Why so much moving?...I'd rather have Harrymens at RT than my boy Maffis...

Palm Feathers
Palm Feathers

 @Blasphemizer 

Hi Blas. I'm just mixing it up to be different.

I didn't really mean to designate position by order. Should I have?

Palm Feathers
Palm Feathers

 @Harry Pianos 

OK - should have read the destructions closer.

 

I un-enroll my chioces - I'll delete the post.

 

 

Harry Pianos
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 @Palm Feathers  Ummmm....It's actually still too early to enter, but in your case maybe Bri will make an exception....cuz yer special, and yer entry kinda sucks....good luck!

Harry Pianos
Harry Pianos

 @Palm Feathers  @Blasphemizer You get more points if you say which position dude is gonna play at....1 point to ge the name right....1point to get the position right....I think.....

Jerky
Jerky

 @Palm Feathers The game doesn't start until manana I thunk?

Jerky
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 @Palm Feathers You don't wanna bust yur load too fast do ya?

Palm Feathers
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 @Jerky 

To fast???

H*ll - I'm PROUD I even have one!

 

What could happen between now and tomorrow ?

 

I WILL say that my Cat has been rolling all over the King's picture.

 

Hope he's wrong........

Jerky
Jerky

JB, nice comment youse made over at BGN. lol

PPW
PPW

I think I can guess how most of you will answer but I must ask- why all the hatred of OTI?

Jerky
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 @PPW My reason is petty, those bastards banned me. A lot of tards hang out there too...

Bruzer
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 @Jerky  @PPW very tardy,...

PPW
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 @Jerky  @Bruzer That sucks man. I like your posts-even if you are an evil hummingbird trapper.

Jerky
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 @PPW  @Bruzer I was never told why I was banned, I asked through e-mails but never received a reply. Spineless little nerds!

PPW
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 @Bruzer  @Jerky Banned for what? I know you can mark somebody's post as negative but I would never do it. If I don't like something, I just move on. Yes there are some friggin dolts that post there I agree. There a few guys that are knowledgable and decent to converse with though.

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