Cornerback crystal ball for Eagles...and a look at college players dollar value...

Written by Thomas Jackson on .

Dan Graziano of ESPN.com weighed in here tonight at Eagles Eye... he corrected my erroneous reference to his being employed by CBSSports.com in a recent blurgg... and wants to set the record straight.

Graziano in fact blogs for the NFC bEAST... but he writes for ESPN, not CBS as I had stupidly reported...

Anyhoo, Dan Graziano has something to say about the Eagles' cornerback situation...

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Graziano joined ESPN.com in 2011 after two years as a Senior NFL Writer for AOL FanHouse. He covered Major League Baseball, the Olympics and various other sports during his time at the Star-Ledger and the Palm Beach Post. A New Jersey native and author of two published novels, he now lives in Ridgewood, N.J., with his wife and two sons.

Here's what Dan has to say about the Eagles' cornerbacks:

"We're doing cornerbacks today, and this stop takes a look at those of the Philadelphia Eagles. "

Projected starters: Nnamdi Asomugha, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

Reserves: Joselio Hanson, Brandon Boykin, Brandon Hughes, Curtis Marsh, Trevard Lindley, Cliff Harris

Potential strength: Asomugha was signed as a marquee free agent last year, and should be one of the strengths of the entire team. As you know if you watched, he obviously had his moments, but he also had some rough spots. The conventional wisdom is that the Eagles played too much zone coverage last season, and that went away from Asomugha's strengths in an effort to minimize Asante Samuel's weakness. But with Samuel gone, it's possible the Eagles will play more man coverage, where Asomugha shines. With a full year in his new surroundings behind him, and assuming the coverage schemes are tweaked to make him more comfortable and use him the way he should be used, Asomugha should find himself in position to re-establish himself as one of the league's elite cornerbacks.

Potential weakness: The departure of Samuel not only eats at the team's depth at the position, it deprives them of the cornerback who actually played the best for them last season. Samuel's playmaking was an asset, and it remains to be seen whether Rodgers-Cromartie, whom they got in return for Kevin Kolb last year and is earning rave offseason reviews, can be the same kind of player. But the big question is that the nickel corner spot, where Hanson wasn't as good last season as he'd been the year before, and now faces a challenge from the rookie Boykin. With Samuel gone and Hanson a question mark, have the Eagles left themselves too thin at a critical position?

Keep an eye on: Harris. He was looked at as a first-round talent during a brilliant 2010 season at Oregon, but his 2011 season disappeared in a haze of suspensions and legal troubles. So he wasn't drafted, but the Eagles took a shot on him as an undrafted free agent. If he can keep himself out of trouble and focus on football, he could turn out to be a huge steal. He was an elite playmaker at a top college program just two years ago. And if not, no harm done. Lots of upside with this young man, and he's a guy to watch. ("Guy to Watch!")

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What Graziano doesn't entirely get--- in my opinion, and also in the opinion of our own legendary analyst JB99--- is that Nnamdi Asomugha excelled in zone coverage for most of 2011... and in fact took out nearly all of the TE's he was assigned upon for single coverage... Sometimes we don't know what we are supposed to be seeing until we see it again on game tape...

The back-up cornerback competition shapes up as a great attraction for Eagles fans in training camp, for sure...

Then this tidbit of background controversy came over the wires...

It was from Tyler Williams, the "Causal Sports Fan" writer... It's about why college athletes who feed the supply line to the pro's should be paid while they're still in school... Here's Tyler Williams himself to explain:

"A few months ago, my friend Jeff and I worked out how much University of Florida athletes are worth to the school for ESPN the Magazine. The key to our approach — in contrast to other studies – is that we looked at profits generated by each player, rather than revenue. Revenue is not so relevant if it is outrun by costs. What matters is profit (before subtracting player compensation). Profit tells you how much schools could actually pay their players."

The numbers at Florida

"The short answer: the best college football players at Florida are worth millions per year, the best basketball players are worth a few hundred thousand, and all other athletes cost the school quite a bit of money. If you have ESPN insider, you can view the full article online. How much of this profit do football and basketball players see? Very little. Player compensation in the form of scholarships is between $15,000 and $50,000 per year per player at most schools. By contrast, other athletes are getting a great deal. Not only do they get a free education, but Florida spends tens of thousands more on each player to ensure that they have awesome coaching, facilities, and equipment."

Football profits across the FBS

"Today, Jeff and I have a related project at ESPN, which will also appear in ESPN the Mag soon. We argue that college football players should be paid. Why? Average profit generated by FBS football players — before scholarships — is about $164,000. The average scholarship payout is just $27,000 by our estimation. So, “non-profit” schools are making an average of $137,000 in profit per player. And if that’s not enough, look at the breakdown by conference (all numbers are from the U.S. Department of Education for the 2010-2011 season):

The SEC and Big Ten are making over $300,000 per player! It’s no wonder we see recruiting scandals every year. They won’t disappear until schools are allowed to pay players closer to what they are worth.

For the curious, here’s the top 10:

Paying players is the right move

"We thought about the arguments against paying college athletes. A common one is that payments would ruin parity because some schools can clearly afford to pay much more than others. A handful of schools lost money on football. However, college football has very little parity already. I’ve been calling for a “College Football Premier League” for awhile now because of the lack of parity in the FBS. We could have salary caps as well, just like in the pros."

"Another popular argument is that scholarship costs don’t capture all the benefits of a college education. For example, Patrick Rishe for Forbes argues that a college degree is worth $2 million in extra wages. This is probably wrong, since he calculates this number by comparing wages for college grads and non-college grads, who are surely of different ability. Also, $2 million in extra wages over the 45 years after college is not the same as getting $2 million in just four years during college. Rishe is an economist! He should know these things."

"Even if that number is right, it’s not relevant to the argument at hand. Another economist, Andrew Zimbalist, has a better interpretation. In a similarly wrongheaded USA Today article, he is the dissenting voice; he argues that player compensation should be measured as tuition plus room and board only (or even less, since many players don’t graduate and thus their tuition payments are a waste). However much you think a college education is worth, the athlete could go out and buy that education for precisely the cost of tuition, so tuition is the most accurate measure of the value of a free education. This is the approach we took in measuring player compensation."

"Another complaint: schools use football profits to fund other important programs. This is partially true. Schools like Texas and Michigan (my team of choice) make so much money on football that some of it kicks back to the universities’ general fund. However, many schools blow their football profits on other sports. These other sports compete in the same division as FCS schools with tiny football profits. Their luxurious treatment at football players’ expense is unnecessary."

"The only argument we had left was something ephemeral about the purity of amateur sports. Unfortunately, that’s gone. Texas made nearly $800,000 per player in 2010-2011 and recruiting scandals happen all the time. Proponents of amateurism are fighting a losing battle in a sea of money. It’s high time that players received their share."


Hmmmm. Food for thought. You can check out Tyler Williams' unique school of thought at http://causalsportsfan.wordpress.com/ ...

643 comments
Brozer8
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HAHA !  I can't believe you dorks are still posting on this article !

 

this one is soooOOOOOooooooooooooooo June 23rd !

Palm Feathers
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Ok  ATV - here goes.

 

 I admired your intel and still do - you can be the muscle of this board. Your humor - was good.

 

This new 'Role' I see you as coveting - GK or whatever.

 

The Big Dog can't play in any Reindeer Games and I think this excludes you - me too,

a lot of folks. Big Dog ain't a nice job.

 

Your posts have gone from very intelligent and /or augmenting something someone else posts to what I see as usually critical  of or outright dismissive.

 

Read above VERY carefully - there were NO names called - just  observations

 

- in case you're rolling up those sleeves for another French War.

 

I'm not putting ANYONE down for being here - whatever - but Off-Season besides - have you noticed fewer people here??

atvcar
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@Palm Feathers Like who is missing exactly?

beanstalk
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 @atvcar  @Palm

 You prick ATVCAR....Your not even listening when poeple who care to help are trying.... Go to bed and talk in the morning

atvcar
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Or at all actually... Nat... And????

atvcar
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Just not for asking you to amplify who is not here... Because of me

atvcar
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Besides I am a prick lol

atvcar
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@Palm Feathers @beanstalk No worries I ain't mad... It's how Beans expresses himself... It's just a word.

atvcar
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@beanstalk @Palm Well that's not happening... Soooooo since I like palm I'd like to hear what he thinks and explore this futher

Palm Feathers
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So - a few years back I bought 'good' Cad-Cam software for the Shop.

 

$22k for three 'Seats' - like I knew what a seat was - them were some expensive chairs.

 

Life goes on - I get a bill - yearly for close to $4k - called "Maintenance upgrades".

 

Beginning of this year - after one of these upgrades - all the computers basically stopped working - right about the time I started here.

 

Had an 'IT' guy in - told me that in order to run the 'Maintenance-Upgraded' software the I paid thousands for - I was going to have to 'go to Win 7.

 

Tried to install 7 and "lo and behold" I needed to buy new 'puters. Not to mention - new plotters, printers, fax machine - blah-blah - blah.

 

Puters Suck - PERIOD.

 

However - afters spending close to $10K on new puters - to run the $5K yearly maintenance 'Package - that is needed for the $22K software AND  installing this FREE copy of Chrome

 

- I am viewing Eagles Eye - sans issues.

 

Yaaaaayyyyyy !!!!

beanstalk
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 @Palm Feathers

 Palmy.....I taught myself how to BUILD computers in about 6 MONTHS FLAT with the internet...It is like Mecano.. You just need the right person to talk to that isn't trying to make money out of you..

 Auto CAD sucks.. BUT everybody got rolled in the Windows upgrade....You know why? BECUASE they invented the shit and can do want they want...

Palm Feathers
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 @beanstalk 

Hi Beaner

 

Actually autoCad is pretty out-dated and will not 'drive' a CNC machine.

 

Solid Works is the latest / greatest way to pick the Palm's Pockets

 

 

beanstalk
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 @Palm Feathers

 The software woulda been ripped....BUT the 500 buck computers ALL under parts warrantee

atvcar
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@Palm Feathers You sure fleeced those bastards!

atvcar
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Bri is worried about the BORED... Greesh only womens and childrens worry... And even they don't worry about an iggles web chat site... N2B2

atvcar
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Hey Bri thanks or the well wishes on my likes.... Being #3 ain't so bad... After all wiffout none of us would be here... Keep your head up!!!

beanstalk
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 @atvcar

 ATV... give it a rest.... I am sick of talking to the same 5 people too...

atvcar
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@beanstalk Feel free I head to OTI... The 5 there are gold Jerry... GOLD! All 90 posts in 2 days... Have fun mate

atvcar
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@beanstalk Welp prepare to be mad cause one I feel I have and if that ain't good enough that's really too bad cause I ain't repeating myself if you chose not to believe what I said

beanstalk
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 @atvcar  @beanstalk

 that ain't an answer...and I am not mad yet...I am demanding you validate your shit

atvcar
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@beanstalk Lol I'm not mad... That's where the communication is breaking down here.. You don't believe me and that's fine wiff me too.

beanstalk
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 @atvcar  @beanstalk

 No...

Make your valid point then.... Your being an arguementative Cunt for what particular reason?    To be right? I know you despise the Points thing, thats why you burned it... So...Where is the rest of it? What the fuck is the matter?

atvcar
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@beanstalk Believe what you want... I ain't trying to convince ya or change your mind... As you shall not change mine. I respect your position I just disagree... Which I'm ok wiff

atvcar
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@beanstalk Actually it isn't a power struggle... For me anyway. This is Lupes place... Despite what others may try to stake claim to... And there is no decision to be made... Since there is no choice

beanstalk
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 @atvcar  @beanstalk

 I do...its actually a power struggle I understand well. Bri has got away wif some harsh shit over the years... without to much fuss...I see your angst... BUT..Don't do a frenchy and cut off your Nose to Spite your face.

 

This charter seems pretty loose... I don't know if I like all of it, but when everyone is sleepin I enjoy a walk...

 

So what? What DO YOU WANT OUT OF THIS SITE?

And don't answer that...just decide.. and I will respect your man decision

atvcar
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@beanstalk Neither... Methinks you don't get my purpose...

beanstalk
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 @atvcar  @beanstalk

 see.....NOW why did you type that...are you a bit drunk...Or just not listening?

atvcar
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@beanstalk I don't give a rats ass about points... If the crybabies stopped worrying about a completely irrelevant thing... I'd stop cause it would then cease to be funny... But till that day, and that day may never come... I'm going to enjoy pushing that button over over while the monkey gets pissed and starts flinging feces again

atvcar
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@beanstalk There is no spoon mate... I'm entertained... Ef anyone else who can't take a joke....

beanstalk
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 @atvcar

 You really can't see the forest for the trees....

atvcar
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Didn't think so... I'm not hurt at all. I did it amusing to annoy dikheads... Especially those who cry over something stupid over and over... I ain't stopping till it isn't funny to me anymore... Capeesh?

atvcar
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@beanstalk Let's put it this way... I already said my piece and some butt hurt ego maniac keeps on keeping on... Would you walk away?

beanstalk
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 @atvcar  @beanstalk

 Stop being hurt.. I have shown me your true self....It ain't that bad at all.. I am just over the shit troofully

beanstalk
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1. How many honest, intelligent, caring men in the world does it take to do the dishes? Both of them.

 2. Why did the man cross the road? He heard the chicken was a slut.

 3. Why don’t women blink during foreplay? They don’t have time.

 4. Why does it take 1 million sperm to fertilize one egg? Even at that stage they won’t stop to ask directions.

 5. What do men and sperm have in common? They both have a one-in-a-million chance of becoming a human being

6. How does a man show that he is planning for the future? He buys two cases of beer.

 7. Why is it difficult to find men who are sensitive, caring and good looking? They all already have boyfriends

. 8. What do you call a woman who knows where her husband is every night? A Widow

 9. How did Pinocchio find out he was made of wood? His hand caught fire.

 10. What is the one thing that all men at singles bars have in common? They are all married.

 

Quailty not QUANtity....like the GK pleads for...

 

Holy shit...I just figured out what Cuba meant .....Quan....THE QUAN

 

 

 

 

beanstalk
beanstalk

NUMBER SIX BURNT ME TO THE CORE!!!!!

briview
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Beamer,...i paid people alot of money (for info on my computer)... i told them,...making them an offer they couldn't refuse,...that they could be gaining a son-in-law or making their daughter an orphan. The choice was theirs.

beanstalk
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 @briview

 and...? what windows are you using...thats all I want to know..

briview
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 @beanstalk XP

beanstalk
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 @briview

 GO straight to google....click the button on the right that sez DOWNLOAD Google Chrome....

 

If it doesn't work, we can uninstall it without damaging anything

 

Instead of hitting the E for internet explorer..

Click on the new Google Chrome Icon... (the new swirly thing)...

 

This should take all of 5 minutes...

report back WHEN....you click on Chrome and your talking here at this site..... I will hang around to sort it out...

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