The boys are back as vets report to Eagles camp...Cliff Harris making impact...and a salute to Jimmy Kempski...

Written by Thomas Jackson on .

There was no afternoon practice on Wednesday...which may explain why Beano and I were going bananas trying to find it on PE.com live-stream video yesterday at 2:00 P.M. EST......

They did run some 11-on-11 and 7-on-7 drills in the morning, mostly with the defense way ahead of the offense at this point in camp... If you caught some of the TC video on NFLN last night, you saw some Eagles camp highlights of the Wednesday drills. It was mostly garbage time, as on many plays you could actually see the defensive pressure get to the QB (Vick, Kafka or Foles) before the pass was thrown. But since you cannot touch the guy in the Red Shirt (i.e., QB), the play was allowed to proceed without an actual hurry or sack...

Bottom line--- nothing can be concluded about anything the defense or offense showed yesterday---nothing. At that point in the TC evolution, it is really about just learning to line up in the right place on the right signal. Good experience for the rookies and free agents...

But now, the game changes--- the Boyz are back in town... veterans have reported...and now the drills get serious...

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All-Pro defensive end Trent Cole arrives at camp on Wednesday, toting his patio furniture?

Atlantic City Press' David Weinberg was there to observe the Eagles vets arriving to Bethlehem:

"Eagles' training camp doesn't really begin until the caravan of Cadillac Escalades, Hummer H2s and Mercedes sedans start rolling into the Sayre Park dormitories at Lehigh University."

"This year's parade unfolded Wednesday, when the veterans weaved their way through the mountain roads, pulled into the parking lot and unloaded HDTVs, state-of-the-art video game systems and hyperbaric chambers for their three-week stay."

'"I saw (Eagles defensive ends) Trent Cole and Jason Babin carrying those things and I was messing with those guys," Eagles defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins said with a laugh. "I don't even know what a hyperbaric chamber is or what it does. I'm going to stick with my air-conditioning and my TV. I'm going into my ninth (NFL) season, so obviously I must be doing something right." '


Funny stuff if you ask me...

Other, more subtle differences were apparent on Wednesday. Although veterans were not required to report until 7 p.m., virtually every player was in their suite by 3 p.m. Last year, training camp got off to a rocky start. Some players reported immediately after the NFL lockout ended while newcomers such as cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, running back Ronnie Brown and quarterback Vince Young arrived a few days later and had to wait to be cleared before they could begin practicing. "Having everybody here is a plus, just from a continuity and team camaraderie standpoint," Reid said Wednesday. "There are less distractions, so I think (having everybody at camp Wednesday) is an absolute plus."

Which brings us to Cliff Harris, who has been the defensive rookie of the week so far, with a bunch of picks and defensed passes in the first few days of drills... but who has not seen a real-time tackling and coverage scenario in over a year due to a suspension from his alma mater... Now he's got to show up against the veteran receivers, blockers, runners and passers in hard-times, hard knocks, fully padded scrimmages come this weekend.

I'll hold my breath on predicting Harris as a final roster survivor until I see him work against the veteran Boy Dogz...

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Cliff Harris is holding his own out there so far at cornerback...but as I suggested, he has yet to be subjected to a real-time NFL test... No doubt the Eagles coaches are planning to put major challenges in his grill when the practices goe to full contact, and he's got to cover and tackle A-Team guys...

In defense of Harris, one of the raps against him is he is "merely" 4.6 speed in the '40...  And I'm here to tell ya his speed number is irrelevant to his ability to cover an NFL receiver...

A cornerback's  angle to the ball allows him to make plays, drive on routes and be a factor in the run game. Rookies will often struggle here as they transition to the speed of the NFL in camp. So far all I see in Harris is a natural ability to size up the correct angle to the ball...

According to Matt Bowen (former NFL safety), Harris plays with a low pad level and explodes out of his plant...you want to see a DB that plays with low pad level, doesn’t use any wasted steps and explodes out of his plant with speed. Check out individual drills and focus on the “W” drill (backpedal and plant—creating a “W”). This has nothing to do with a '40 time or a short shuttle drill. Be quick with your feet, stay square and show a burst when you come downhill. Harris seems to have that stuff down...

Harris seems to show the intelligence and instincts necessary to cover one-on-one as well as zone...Even though Harris has had some INT's in the camp drills so far, you want to look for technique and route recognition over interceptions. Can the CB or safety drive to the upfield shoulder, keep his cushion in off-man, use his hands and mirror the release in press, turn and run vs. the 9 (fade) route, play the ball at the highest point, etc. Technique, footwork and the ability to understand where routes break on the field (12-15 yards outside of the 3-step game). That’s how you grade one-on-ones. So far, Harris grades out pretty well... but the real-time challenge is about to come when the pads go on, and he's lined up against guys like DJax and Maclin...

Speaking of coverage, I want to give a shout-out of support and applause for Jimmy Kempski, the poster-boy for NFC-East bloggers whose work you can enjoy at Blogging the bEast.com .... Jimmy is up there in Bethlehem, PA, on his own dime, and posting back inside stuff to us daily about Eagles training camp and the NFC East in general.  ATV and Jerky turned me on to Jimmy K's work, and even inspired me to donate $50 to his cause as ATV has done (donation box located on Jimmy's website).  Unless Jimmy is independently wealthy or he sleeps in his car, I don't see how he can afford to do what he does...since his site carries no advertising... but his material is original and refreshing.

One thing Jimmy K. has already taught me (and which ATV aka Chris called to my attention)---  We need to be careful about automatically assuming that Fletcher Cox "replaces" Mike Patterson in the DT rotation...

Here's why:
At quick glance, the Eagles are seemingly very deep at DT:

Pos1234
NT Mike Patterson Antonio Dixon Derek Landri Ollie Ogbu
UT Cullen Jenkins Fletcher Cox Cedric Thornton

However, there are two DT positions in the Eagles defense, the UT and the NT.  They are different.  The Eagles like to line up the NT in the gap between the C and the G.  It’s his job to shoot that gap and be disruptive enough that the offense has to double him.  The Eagles go three deep at NT: Mike Patterson, Antonio Dixon, and Derek Landri.  The UT, meanwhile, typically lines up on the outside shoulder of the other G.  The idea is for the UT to get one-on-one matchups with the G, while also forcing one-on-one matchups with the DE on the OT.  You want your UT to have some good pass rushing ability.  That’s the position that Cullen Jenkins plays.  Behind Jenkins, the Eagles have first round pick Fletcher Cox, and player they really like in Cedric Thornton.

Here’s what Jimmy K.'s talking about.  Patterson (the NT) is circled in red.  Jenkins (the UT) is circled in blue.  Note their alignment:

UT-NT

As Jimmy K. notes, Cox and Patterson actually are slotted to play different positions with different responsibilities, even though they are both called "Tackle" positions... so it's not an automatic substitution. Derek Landri was a stud when he got his opportunities last season at Patterson's spot, but Antonio Dixon is a bit of a question mark after missing almost all of last season with a torn triceps.  There is also a possibility that Fletcher Cox could be so good that he can play either spot, but that remains to be seen.  Either way, Patterson's absence most certainly eats into the Eagles’ depth along the DL.

I also like Jimmy K.'s visual illustration here... it really gives you a panoramic sense of the size of the gaps in a real-time NFL formation.

547 comments
atvcar
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Isn't my omnipotencey amazing that has me here AND nabbing another first on the new blurg? Gosh sometimes I even amaze myself!!!

Tom Jackson
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 @atvcar  Oh my Gawd, I completely forgot about the new blurg... excuse me while I kiss the sky! and get my arse over there...

Tom Jackson
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Wow.. I just got it.. Brozo the Clown is James Brown!

atvcar
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@Tom Jackson He feels good?

Jerky
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You're gonna want to have more Spiffo on that track, I'm telling you guys!.

PPW
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Sweet another delicious blueberry swisher.

Jerky
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 @PPW Light it up, smoke it up, inhale, exhale....ahhhh. Chinese eyes.

PPW
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Now ya live inside that bottle, the reaper's traveling at full throttle. It's catching you but you don't see, the reaper's you and the reaper is me.

Jerky
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 @PPW Come on baby

(Don't fear the reaper)

Baby take my hand

(Don't fear the reaper)

We'll be able to fly

(Don't fear the reaper)

Baby I'm your man

PPW
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@Jerky I need more cowbell

PPW
PPW

@dutchrubb @Jerky MORE! Always more

Jerky
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PP, the commenting is going to get going full throttle as soon as the pads go on, how many times do you need to be told this? 

dutchrubb
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Would somebody please send my 6K cake to Florida..................if Spiff is really dead, he won't be an issue. Palmer deserves to get one to help with his recovery. Those nurses won't make him one............they are DOB's.

Jerky
Jerky

 @dutchrubb Spiff is in rehab, you didn't know?

dutchrubb
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 @Jerky Cake withdrawal? Must be severe.

Jerky
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 @dutchrubb We had to sit him down and have an intervention. It got heavy, but, so did Spiff, hence the rehab.

Jerky
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 @dutchrubb His yellow cake addiction was getting way out of hand. 

Jerky
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 @dutchrubb Well,  the people that are un-programmatic will be chopped up and made into scrapple.

dutchrubb
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 @Jerky Oh..............I think there is a few people around here that there is no program for............at least till Broz hears of it.

Jerky
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 @dutchrubb I've heard of it, I haven't actually witnessed it because I have never even seen skippity scrapple in my life. But I know there's a program for everyone.

dutchrubb
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 @Jerky BTW, you don't think anybody runs rehab for scrapple addiction, do ya?

dutchrubb
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I had an exceptional laugh on the highway the other evening.

 

Passed a car, and noticed the personalized plate.

 

It said "Butsy"!!!!!!

 

No, of couse it was not on an Infinity.................it was on a Hyundai!!!!!!!

 

True story.

 

Did not know Sonbutts moved to PA.

dutchrubb
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Oh...........and the driver looked kinda G..........NTTAWWT.

Jerky
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Seahags sign WR Antonio Bryant? I didn't even know he played anymore... Carroll is a strange dude.

Jerky
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What are you rat bass turds doing?

PPW
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@Jerky Waiting for you to CHUT THE EFF UP

Jerky
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 @PPW  @Jerky I'll pants you in front of all the ladies if you don't CHUT IT!

PPW
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Nothing goin on. It's so funny to me that there was so much activity prior to the start of TC and now it's void and barren.

Jerky
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 @PPW Funny how?

Jerky
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Since I've started working a day job, well that's like a hundred extra comments at least that aren't around anymore. I make this site go,... in case you haven't noticed...

atvcar
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@Jerky Clearly you've forgotten your place as my wingman aye goose?

dutchrubb
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 @PPW I blame Robert...........think he got Spiffy.

PPW
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@dutchrubb That never occurred to me.

dutchrubb
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 @PPW Though Bri blames the hubcap..........I think it was the tire.

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