East-West Shrine Game scouting notes...and some guys the Eagles are watching closely...

Written by Thomas Jackson on .


We're lucky to have a guy assigned to scout college talent who's actually a part of this site's network--- his name is Eric Galco--- and he's actually been down in St. Petersburg all week long taking notes on the college seniors who are being showcased this Saturday in their bids to take it to the next level.

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A young man of interest is QB Dan Persa, 6-1, 210, a local boy from Bethlehem, Pa., who's put up impressive passing numbers for Northwestern U. the past two seasons...

Eric Galco does our in-house college scouting blog called Optimum Scouting.com. It's always a good read and is the "Cliff's Notes" for everything that JB carries around in his head at all times...

Here's Eric's take on how this week's practices in Florida went and who stood out based on the format of the drills...

Thursday Practice Notes:

Quarterbacks
-On the East roster, John Brantley of Florida looked much better in his deep balls today, timing being a main reason for his success. As I've said each day, he's a guy that lives on timing and anticipation, and he's going to look better as he develops more comfort-ability with receivers, but he still isn't a Top 3, maybe not Top 4 quarterback here. Improved, worth a late round look, but did not impress me.

-Also on the East Roster, they ran a 2:00 minute offense for the quarterbacks. BJ Coleman threw an interception (to Brandon Lindsey), Austin Davis led a field goal drive, and John Brantley...didn't get a shot. I expect similar results in the game.

-On the West roster, the clear cut best quarterback today was Northwestern's Dan Persa. He hasn't wowed all week and likely isn't draftable based on his height and lack of arm, but he was consistently accurate, checking down across the middle, and made some plays on the move. Chandler Harnish had two interceptions to Aaron Henry that I saw... Tyler Hansen had one on the two-minute drills.

Running Backs/Wide Receivers/Tight Ends
-On the East roster, Tauren Poole of Tennessee had another solid day, showing good lateral movement and getting to his top speed quickly through the hole with great vision. Davin Meggett of Maryland showed some suddenness as well today and has shown more this week than he did on film. But overall, he's no lock to be drafted.

-As for the West roster, I unfortunately haven't gotten a good look at this group all week long thanks to the coaching staff not having a lot of contact in drills. Marc Tyler looks the most comfortable catching out of the backfield, but he's dropped some too. Overall, my look at him on the field in game day will be the first and likely only time I'll be truly evaluating him and the entire group this week.

-I continue to be impressed with Tim Benford of Tennessee Tech and AJ Jenkins of Illinois on the East roster at receiver. For their size, they catch away from their body so well, track it in coverage, and are very sudden in their cuts in routes. Both won't be Top 3 rounders, but both should be solid NFL receivers at the next level.

-Lance Lewis of East Carolina has impressed the last two days. Both he and BJ Cunningham of Michigan State have exploded well through the catch all week, and both have been named as guys whom each quarterback has been most comfortable throwing to, which is important to note.

-Thomas Mayo of California, PA, is maybe the most physically impressive receiver here, and at times he's been maybe the most intriguing with his physicality, explosion initially, and his catching in traffic. But his two concerns on film (deep ball positioning and consistent hands) weren't quite answered this week. He still really impressed, but he didn't become a top three rounder like I thought he could have. Still, solid week for Mayo.

-On the West squad, I wasn't able to glean a whole lot. But, I am REALLY intrigued with Dale Moss of South Dakota State. For a one year football player (four year basketball player), he looks far more polished, comfortable, and coachable than I expected coming in. He wasn't the best receiver here, but based on the fact he likely was Top 5 overall, or at least close to it, is VERY exciting for his potential.

-George Bryan of NC State has not been able to establish the seam route, coming off too high as a blocker, and doesn't get in position well in middle routes. But when the ball is thrown his way and he's got even a little space, he can make the catch consistently. He had the catch of the day today, and if he can be a developed blocker and an adequate catcher, he could get late round looks.


Offensive Linemen

-For the East, Jeff Adams of Columbia and Joe Long of Wayne State both were my focus today. First off, both are long snapper prospects as well, Long getting the ball back with much more force, which for sure adds to his value. Long, however, looks quite stiff in his bend and laterally. He has a powerful punch and can reposition his hands fairly well, but he leans back to much in his kick slide and struggles to recover back inside.

-Jeff Adams has improved a lot this week in his hand placement, getting great extension and driving well in both pass and run blocking. His hands have been a little high all week, but they've been slowly and more consistently coming down, and he's starting to get a little inside placement and grabbing some cloth, which is good to see.

-The West wasn't in pads to really evaluate practice, but the only thing that caught my eye was the hurdle by Moe Petrus of UConn.  Josh LeRibeus of SMU was on the ground as he pulled on the play, and Petrus saw it as he flipped his head and jumped over a grounded yet still somewhat upright LeRibeus. Petrus has really struggled and will fall drastically down my board after this week, but that was pretty interesting/cool/probably worthless to note.


Defensive Linemen
-Think I mentioned it yesterday, but Matt Conrath of Virginia is just a gamer. He looks very slow, lacks quickness, and gets to pressure late in individual drills, looking like a fringe NFL guy. But every day in team practice, he's gotten better pressure and really flashed, today having great awareness on a few screen plays and one play having a batted ball-to-his interception. I wouldn't draft him in the Top 5 rounds, but as a 5-technique, he intrigues and just makes plays in team drills.

-Travian Robertson of South Carolina showed some great extension and driving today, but he hasn't improved all week long like I had hoped. Still one of the Top 5 defensive tackles here, I wish he wouldn't bettered himself like others day.

-Speaking of guys that did improve all week, Kyle Wilber of Wake Forest showed outstanding quickness off the snap again today, abusing Jeff Adams and Joe Long early in practice. However, he doesn't fight overly well with his hands, and if he doesn't have a pre-determined move that works well in his pass rushes, he doesn't have the strength or explosion to get to the backfield. Also, Micanor Regis of Miami flashed some quickness of the snap all week long and has suddenness on the inside, but shows little else.     

-For the West, a few bag-pass rush drills were run that seemed to really clarify a few abilities. DaJohn Harris of USC and Justin Francis of Rutgers were surely the most impressive in the pass rushing drills, both in power and speed rush. Both were the only ones who were able to transition from a speed rush move to staying balanced and aware afterwards. And both have been able to execute in team drills as well.

-Kentrell Lockett of Ole Miss really flashed to me this week with his extension and explosion when he's able to play back from the line or from a two-point stance. But today in those pass rushing drills, he really didn't have the coordination or balance I was hoping to see. I've settled a bit on Lockett, as he's really intriguing with his length and explosion, but he's not the type of balanced outstanding athlete I was hoping to see.

-Vaughn Meatoga of Hawaii echoed today what I saw on film: he has some explosive, developed, powerful power rush moves, but little on the speed rush end in balance and change of direction. He needs a good nose tackle at the next level to be successful, but I don't think he can quickly escape double teams, limiting his potential 3-4 defensive end value to me.      


Linebackers

-For the East roster, I'll start off by saying that anyone who has been saying Brandon Lindsey of Pittsburgh is playing poorly this week is, in my opinion, not giving him a fair shake. He's played a 4-3 outside linebacker spot, a spot he's never played before and WON'T be playing in the NFL, as he's a 3-4 OLB at the NFL level. In the few times he's been a short area coverage, mostly having flat responsibility this week, he's looked comfortable and was reacting well to the ball. While it wasn't a great week to highlight his skills, I think it's more of a throw-away and we'll glean a little from it, but it shouldn't really hurt his stock at all.

-Shawn Loiseau of Merrimack and Josh Linam of Central Florida have been consistently around the ball all week long. Linam has been more instinctive and positioning himself well, while Loiseau has been more aggressive, forceful to the backfield all week long. Both have impressed, Loiseau especially.

-Since the West Roster really hasn't had much contact, the only thing I can really is say is that Brandon Marshall of Nevada and Tank Carder of TCU have looked the best in coverage this week. Carder is very fundamentally sound, NFL-ready in zone coverage, while Marshall has gotten to his drops and reacted better than I expected. Keep in mind with Marshall, he had more tackles this year and came downhill with more force than more highly coveted prospect/teammate/linebacker James Michael-Johnson.


Defensive Backs

-RJ Blanton of Notre Dame continued to show his physicality on the East roster, shoving receivers off their routes with consistency all week long. Also for the East, I thought Nick Sukay bounced back all week from a sub-par day one at safety, and he was reacting well, staying low in run support and reading the tight ends better in coverage.

-As for the West Roster, Shaun Prater of Iowa showed some more physicality and actually ran well today with Dale Moss in deep coverage. He was moved to nickel cornerback for a little while too. He's been the most impressive of the West cornerbacks for sure, but West Virginia's Keith Tandy also got to his drops very well, staying low and balanced in his drop back and transitioning better today than in days past and on film. Finally, Trevin Wade of Arizona was struggling to react to the inside, giving up too much cushion on inside routes, a problem Brandon Hardin of Oregon State had yesterday. 

-Finally, Aaron Henry of Nebraska and Duke Ihenacho of San Jose State made some plays at safety today. Ihenacho has been quiet all week, but he's an instinctive, quick twitch guy that has the athletic ability to be a worthwhile developmental guy. Henry had two interceptions on Chandler Harnish today, one of which was away from his body, and he came off coverage well to react to it.

Some Issues With The Week of Practice
-The West Roster has done VERY little real football contact this week, with their most physical practice being the rained-filled Wednesday slop-fest. While it has an impact on the game, likely, I don't care about that aspect. I NEVER got a good feel for any of the running backs or how the linebackers can fill in run support. It's too bad for a lot of those guys.

Besides the lack of contact, what is also really a shame is that these teams DON'T give players a chance to work in a 3-4 scheme. Guys like Justin Francis, Vaughn Meatoga, and Matt Conrath could be 3-4 DEs, Brandon Lindsey, Josh Kaddu, and Kyle Wilber could have shown some 3-4 rush skills as well. It's not fair to these guys, as they weren't give ample opportunity to show what they can do. That is something the game really needs to address next year, whether that's involving more drills to show some 5-technique or rushing skills, or even having one 3-4 team and one 4-3 team, and doing their best to put players on the teams accordingly.

Injury Notes
-Junior Hemingway of Michigan was the latest in the injuries Thursday with a pulled hamstring, and as Joe Everett of RookieDraft.com reported, he's questionable for the game. Also injured after being on the initial roster this week was Gary Gray of Notre Dame (groin injury), Tysyn Hartman of Kansas State (concussion), Bruce Figgins of Georgia (likely concussion, not confirmed), and Markus Zusevics (unknown injury).

Guys the Eagles will probably be interested in the most:

1. Dan Persa, QB
2. Dale Moss, WR
3. Shawn Loiseau, LB
4. Shaun Prater, DB
5. Aaron Henry, S
6. Tank Carder, LB

137 comments
fieldsr69
fieldsr69

New blurb. Its confusing. Smart people make everything complicated. Turnovers are bad. If the eagles didn't have so many turnovers their defense would have been better. I think.

Demappulls!
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I gotta check my latest stack of movies and see whats good. Or intriguing at least.

fieldsr69
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Unforgiven is on amc. Easily one of my favorite movies.

Tom Jackson
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I'm done with the dish...satellite, that is...

n.akuatuta
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well, i had a fun evening. it's now almost 6 am and i should finally head to bed. good night !!!

fieldsr69
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@n.akuatuta out till 6am and call it a fun evening? I've said it before and ill say it again, your awesome.

Kenemeka
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Hard to believe that by this time tomorrow, two more sets of fans are gonna be really frustrated....will be down to the final two.......and with that the realization that there's really only one winner out of the 32 that started and no guarantees that you will be back next year

n.akuatuta
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@Kenemeka of the 4 that are left, i'm absolutely not ok with any of them winning the superbowl.

n.akuatuta
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quiche (at least the french version of it) is from my area of france !! long live lorraine !

fieldsr69
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I'm watching the notebook with my daughter. This movie makes me want to set my own genitals on fire as punishment for having a daughter. This is the same girl that swears Road warrior is one of the best movies ever made. The note book. Arggh!! I remember now, it was us, it was us!

Demappulls!
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Freaking snow... Well that's not fair actually... Freaking wet slushy sticky shitty snow... I've had to drag the ladder out 4 times today to get all the snow off the dish... This snow is just sticking to the damn thing. I should have gotten up there earlier this week and sprayed it down with some cooking spray like pam or that rain-x stuff... I put a garbage bag over it this time with the hopes of not having to climb up there anymore tonight.

Kenemeka
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@Hudnation Apple Wine Sorry buddy, ain't no way I'm going out in this cold. Was bad enough when I went out for milk. My bigger problem was the wind, till I got the damn thing stapled....., then ice forming a film over the dish

Demappulls!
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@Kenemeka@hudnation Had to be able to watch the Jazz beat the T-Wolves and also end Mr. Love's Double Double streak! Haha.

Kenemeka
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It appears Miami is planning on making T Bowles it's DC. Apparently, M McCoy wasn't keen on keeping him there but the FO was keen on whoever they hired to keep Bowles. That's a name a number of folks wouldn't mind coming over here

Kenemeka
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Woodrow is there ok......will catch up later. Gots to dash out to grab milk for the little ones

Tom Jackson
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@Kenemeka Later, Gator! I'll try to get that 6ers score for ya.

Kenemeka
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@Tom Jackson Heard it on xm in the car.....a blow out it seems....., unfortunate

Kenemeka
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Having really seen a Sixers game yet. Thought nbatv would have carried this one

Tom Jackson
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Nice to see Dave Spadaro interacting a bit more with his OTI readers...I know he's busy with a lot of other stuff, but I always thought he could double his readership by sparring more with his audience.

It's not even close to the same with me... since I started out and always will be part of the audience. I'm just the guy who got carried away and put the lampshade on his head when the party was already started.

fieldsr69
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@Tom Jackson that was one of the things I don't like about Dave. Its like he tries tries to stay above the discussion. The reality is that its better when he interacts.

Kenemeka
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@Tom Jackson That's really cool. I better hop over there and see if my good friend Woodrow is still around

Kenemeka
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What's up with the sixers heat game

Tom Jackson
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@Kenemeka Sixers were up big at first quarter... need to check second-half score.

AbeLinc64
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funny poster at Pitt/L-ville game uses ESPN to spell out "thE loSing stoPs Now"

Kenemeka
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Some of the NY papers pretty much ask for subscription before you can read stuff.....ironically though, how are the papers gonna make money? How do they pay their staff

Tom Jackson
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@Kenemeka No doubt the print news industry is under fire to generate revenue... I always thought their advertising inserts and their print ads would bring in enough $... But apparently that 50 cents or $1 at the newsstand (or home delivery) added up to the crucial difference between profit and loss...

Tom Jackson
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I figure for all you old OTI/PE.com veterans, take your points total here and multiply it by at least 3 for an estimated all-time career point total.

Kenemeka
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Hudson ))) thanks for the info about the emails...tried all I could without much luck so far. The damn thing is annoying the heck out of me. I've resisted changing phones since the 4G series came out but wifey's old 3G was giving up. I loved the previous phone, had my two gmail and two yahoo accounts up on it. This one is giving me options on addresses I don't have. The most annoying thing though is that I haven't been able to get my text messages moved over

Tom Jackson
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@Kenemeka I sympathize. This is why I hate it when my wife suddenly announces at various times, "Hey, I got us two new phones---I upgraded!"

Kenemeka
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@Tom Jackson Wifey actually only prefers to buy gadgets after the second generation.......so they can work out the kinks.......but her phones have always suffered the brunt of the kids, from her Motorola crazor to palm centro.....generations of iPhone. At least her iPad is somewhat safer

Kenemeka
Kenemeka

@Tom Jackson @Tom That unfortunately my good friend is the second part of it.......I ain't all that techie sound...., and even that is being generous to me. I took quite some time to equip my 3G to suit my needs and wants. Probably gonna log around two phones for a while

Tom Jackson
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@Kenemeka @Tom Your wife is a reasonable person. 2nd generation gadgets are the way to go. Being a caveman myself, I'm still struggling with how to program a VCR.

Tom Jackson
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Wait, I think Broz crossed 10,000 earlier this week!

Demappulls!
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About the pay membership stuff I actually have espn insider. It came free with a subscription to espn the mag that someone got me for xmas last year and to be honest Roto has all the same info and more for free. Let alone twitter and tons of other sources.

Tom Jackson
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@Hudnation Apple Wine Interesting, Hud... and if Roto ever starts charging for their info, it'll be like "what's the point?" I'll just have to start buying newspapers at the convenience store again.

Kenemeka
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@Tom Jackson Funny, Philly.com have an app that you pay for on iPhone. Didn't do that, got it from safari, bookmarked it unto my screen and it refreshes each time I go there. Besides, I only use it largely for sports

Tom Jackson
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In recent days, Harry Organs/Piano is approaching 2,000 points of Light... Blas has exceeded the 2,000 number... Hud crossed 8,000 mark....T-Bone broke through 8,000, also... Bri approaches 10,000...Spiffo broke a barrier, too, although for the life of me I can't remember the number (6,000?)... Nathalie also has broken through the 4,000 mark... Kenny at 5,500...Moonbeam at a combined 2,000, if you count up his various identities...Brozer must be approaching the 10,000 mark, too.

Tom Jackson
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My new mission: to get Abe Linc to 1,000 points... who's wiff me?

AbeLinc64
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TJack - not worried bout it. I just go with flow down the lazy river. Woody Hayes, Woodrow, and me. I don't need ad 265lb RB and 3 tight ends weighing 280 lbs to get to the end zone.

Tom Jackson
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JB--- what a great guy! In spite of his personal wealth and college football pedigree, he chooses to hang with us! Civil War surgeon, Victorian era gynecologist...yet he spends time with us, the common people!

AbeLinc64
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JB won't be happy when he returns from his booze song and debauchary. Da Cuse is taking in the butt from ND

Tom Jackson
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@AbeLinc64 That's the great thing about living in Austin. There's always a rock'n'roll party right around the corner. You wake up and nothin' else matters.

AbeLinc64
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TJack - Don't know bout Austin but was in Dal/Ft Worth and Wacco a few times when I was stationed at Ft Hood. Dat was so long ago I gots CRS (can't remember Shitz) about either one of dem places

Tom Jackson
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Excellent sound byte from Ray Lewis today on ESPN: "This will be a Film Study contest..." Wow. Like Yogi Berra once said, "This game is 50% physical, and 90% mental..." or something like that.

Tom Jackson
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Intolerable Cruelty--- sounds like the docudrama of the Eagles' Fan experience since 2005... just wanna break on through to the other side!

Harry Pianos
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I'm off to watch Intolerable Cruelty with my wife.....it stars Catherine Zeta Jones, who makes my wiener tingle.......so I shall be changing into more comfortable pants first.....

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