Here's a quick capsule review of the top measurables for the Defensive Backs on Tuesday at the Combine... the entire group's performance was so closely packed, though, I don't think you can draw many ironclad conclusions from the "Top 5" lists at each drill:
Janoris Jenkins had a nice day in the drills for cornerbacks, displaying top form in footwork as well as decent speed. Jenkins reportedly also had a good interview session this past week. Apparently needing to feed four (4) kids at age 23 can be a motivator for a young man to get his act together...
- Josh Robinson (4.33)
- Ron Brooks (4.37)
- Stephon Gilmore (4.40)
- Coty Sensabaugh (4.42)
- Dwight Bentley (4.43)
- Justin Bethel (39.5)
- Josh Robinson (38.5)
- Ron Brooks (38.0)
- Alfonzo Dennard (37.0)
- Coryell Judie (37.0)
- Josh Robinson (11'1")
- Justin Bethel (10'11")
- Coryell Judie (10'6")
- Jamell Fleming (10'5")
- Josh Norman (10'4")
- Josh Robinson (6.55)
- Terrence Frederick (6.59)
- Coty Sensabaugh (6.60)
- Stephon Gilmore (6.61)
- Robert Blanton (6.71)
- Casey Hayward (3.90)
- Stephon Gilmore (3.94)
- Robert Blanton (3.97)
- Josh Robinson (3.97)
- Jamell Fleming (3.97)
- Jamell Fleming (10.75)
- Casey Hayward (11.10)
- Terrence Frederick (11.13)
- Stephon Gilmore (11.15)
- Janoris Jenkins (11.23)
Harrison Smith (Free Safety, Notre Dame) probably enjoyed the biggest rise in draft value based on overall performance among the safeties.
- Christian Thompson (4.50)
- Sean Richardson (4.52)
- Trent Robinson (4.52)
- Kelcie McCray (4.54)
- Corey White (4.55)
- Sean Richardson (38.5)
- Corey White (37.5)
- Charles Mitchell (37.0)
- Janzen Jackson (36.5)
- Jeron McMillian (36.5)
- Sean Richardson (10'8")
- Charles Mitchell (10'7")
- Corey White (10'6")
- Janzen Jackson (10'5")
- Trent Robinson (10'5")
- Harrison Smith (6.63)
- Jeron McMillian (6.69)
- Corey White (6.72)
- Duke Ihenacho (6.78)
- Janzen Jackson (6.90)
- George Iloka (4.03)
- Harrison Smith (4.12)
- Christian Thompson (4.13)
- Sean Cattouse (4.15)
- Delano Howell (4.15)
- Kelcie McCray (11.56)
- Antonio Allen (11.59)
- Christian Thompson (11.72
- George Iloka (11.75)
- Charles Mitchell (11.78)
"Naturally, I’ve got to gravitate toward Morris Claiborne out of LSU. We already knew he could play, and the kid was pretty solid all day during drills. One minor thing about him was his body position. It was a high at times, but he’s going to correct that. He’s the No. 1 cornerback in this draft, no question about it."
"If there was somebody who might contend with Claiborne for that title, it’d have to be Janoris Jenkins out of North Alabama. That he transferred from Florida because of trouble, we all know that. He’s got a troubled past, and I’m sure he was grilled about it this week. But I truly believe he’s a good kid that just made some bad decisions. Kid can play."
"Lastly, I know safety isn’t my domain, but I’ve got something to say. Harrison Smith out of Notre Dame did a lot to help his draft stock today. He was just on point in every drill and had himself a fundamentally sound day."Our good buddy Brozer had a great thought yesterday..."Wouldn't it be most instructive to compare your post-Combine analyses of the Defensive candidates to the pre-Combine raves...and then split the difference?"
Brozer is right on... Since we didn't get a timely window on all the Defensive Draft applicants prior to the finale of the Combine, let's look seriously at who rose and who fell in the process? Kind of a "Before and After" perspective...
Every year there are players whose draft stock tumbles at the NFL Combine. It's the nature of the business when you take a player out of a team sport and evaluate him head to head against his peers. The one who looks great makes the others look worse by comparison.
But not every year do you have a player torpedo his own stock so thoroughly that conversation moves him from a fringe first rounder to a fringe bet to go undrafted. Not every year do you have to look for historical comparables for "worst NFL combine ever." For Vontaze Burfict, this is that awkward moment. For the record, Burfict is able to hit people very, very hard. That's how he made his name as a player in a very good 2010 season. But 2011 wasn't kind to him on the field, and scouts had already started picking holes in Burfict's game before the Combine started. "I don't see first round at all," pronounced Mike Mayock. "I wouldn't touch him," remarked an unnamed NFL personnel man to CBS's Bruce Feldman. "I could have played better. The coaches messed me up," said Burfict himself, not helping himself in interviews.
So the stage was set for a fall, and Burfict's indifference about the physical drills he was being asked to run made it into an epic one. He lumbered to a 5-second 40, failed to shine in any of the other positional drills, and seemed more interested in twiddling with his iPod than with firing himself up for this harshly lit stage.
In its awfulness, his performance far outshines that of fellow linebackers Brandon Spikes, who interviewed well but ran slow, and Rey Maualuga, who ran well but rubbed many the wrong way. Other highly-touted defenders have fallen at the Combine, only to rise again in the draft, like Joe Haden (indifferent), Terrell Suggs (slow), and Aaron Maybin (both). None of these makes a perfect comparable.
To find someone who made so thoroughly bad an impression, who so thoroughly sunk his own stock, we're left with this: Burfict may be the new Maurice Clarett.
Risers in the defensive front seven:
DT's Dontari Poe (Memphis) and Fletcher Cox (Mississippi State)
This was supposed to be a weak class of DTs, especially compared to 2010, which brought us Ndamukong Suh and Gerald McCoy in the top 3. But don't tell that to 6'4" 346-pound Dontari Poe. Poe shocked observers with his raw physical might, lifting 225 pounds off the bench 44 times, and bursting down the field with a 4.78 40 yard dash - taking only 1.7 seconds to get the first ten yards up the field.
That ten-yard split is notable in its ability to completely erase a quarterback's cushion, even in a shotgun snap. To consistently do so in under two seconds will disrupt even the fastest timing-based offense. Speed and strength off the snap is what propelled Ndamukong Suh to stardom, and his combine measurements (32 reps in the bench press, 4.98 in the 40) pale by comparison.
Best of all, notes Yahoo's Doug Farrar, the tape backs up his athletic feats. Rarely does a defensive tackle follow the Warren Sapp path to stardom. Poe may be on it.
Before Poe stepped into the spotlight, Fletcher Cox's speed stood as the most eye-opening feat on the day. He clocked a 4.79 40 with a 1.63 split on the first ten yards, moving significantly faster at 298 pounds than a player like Burfict did at fifty pounds lighter. "Impressive," you say, "but he's no Dontari Poe." But like Poe, his stock will be rising significantly after this performance, perhaps climbing into the first round.
DEs Nick Perry (USC) and Melvin Ingram (South Carolina)
SI's Tony Pauline raved that Perry had a "workout for the ages," impressing in each of the stunts and tests he was asked to run. Perry already carried a rep as a "workout warrior," though that can have a negative connotation as well for players who aren't as physical as you'd expect on the field compared to what they can do off of it. But his high motor and agility make him a first-round prospect as a pass rusher.
Melvin Ingram, on the other hand, is considered a total package at defensive end, and who displayed as much style as substance while being put through the paces. Ingram appeared effortless and constantly on balance while running a 4.67 40, and sprinting through technique drills. Ingram was already a highly-regarded prospect who didn't help himself so much compared to his peers, but compared to higher-risk players in other positions that be candidates for the top 15.
LB Luke Kuechley (Boston College)
First, we have to learn how to say his name. (It's "KEEK-ly"). Then we have to readjust our expectations, because Kuechley blew them away.
In our pre-draft preview of Kuechley, we quote Wes Bunting of the National Football Post citing conventional wisdom: "He's not the biggest, strongest or fastest, but..."
Hold that thought. Kuechley killed the strength and speed drills, with a sparkling 4.58 time in the 40 yard dash and 27 reps on the bench. Throw in the third-highest vertical leap and fifth-highest broad jump on the day, and add in the rest of Bunting's sentiments - "... 'plus' tackler w/ great instincts...top tier future NFL tackler" - and you have a very exciting player.
Fallers in the defensive front seven
DT Michael Brockers (LSU)
Hubris, for underclassmen, is believing in your own greatness - especially when it's told to you by an agent - before you've earned it on the field. Hubris is launching yourself into the NFL Draft pool because you've been told that this is a "weak" class at your position, and because you've grown man-size at 6'5" with 35" arms. Hubris is calling yourself a top prospect at DT with a career total of two sacks, while playing in the middle of one of the greatest defenses known to college football.
Hubris is Michael Brockers, and it was punctured badly at the Combine. With his youth and frame, Brockers is a "projectable" player with intriguing size and length but holes on his resume, much like Aldon Smith was a year ago. But Smith was far more productive in his first two seasons at Missouri than Brockers was at LSU, and justified a high pick with his production on the 49ers.
Smith also performed extremely well at the Combine, running a 4.67 after coming off a leg injury. Perfectly healthy, Brockers plodded to a 5.33 time, and lifted the 225 pound weight a mere 19 times. By comparison, WR Ryan Broyles out-lifted him with 21.
Athletic measurements are all the more important when you're buying on raw skill. Brockers didn't give teams much to fall in love with, and appeared to fall firmly out of first round contention.
DE Quinton Coples (UNC)
In the annals of those who have fallen in the Combine, Coples didn't fall far. His potential combined with his impressive game tape make him a first-rounder, and probably a high one at that. But because we in the media are in the business of keeping lists, we need names to put on them. Coples didn't explode athletically the way some of his counterparts did, ranking this as a mildly disappointing Combine for him.
It may be just a blip. But if he starts to fall a little bit in the draft, we may have seen it foreshadowed here.
Bri is all right by me...calm up and perk down! He is an unrestricted Free Agent...we must deal with that...if he chooses to pitch for PE.com, he still qualifies for his pension from here...and his career will still be documented here with honor...as in the banner which bears his name hanging from our rafters... Bri is many things to all of us, but most of all, he is The Penultimate Eagles Poster of All Time...and he has personally inspired me to Perk Up my entire life...so it is written, circa 2012...
Morning all ......... Have I missed anything?
Sad news about Davey Jones ...... The English Monkee ....... I am Believer was number 1 on the day I was born ........ RIP Davey :-(
i wonder why so many of you think brizer won't ever post here again. i'm slightly confused. i hope you are wrong. good day, good night to all !
I'll be curious to know if codeine cough syrup cures syphillus or not.
I'll be wartching GreatFat,....to see if he croaks or whatnots !
Should be Must See TV right there !
What's all this hubabaloo about Bellevue ? What did I miss ?
I was conversationaling wiff DDD, as I am want to do from time to time,....I see Bellevue pop in wiff a random post or 3,...and dats all I saw of him.
Den, I come here, and it sounds like a mob war happened !
I musta missed sumptin' good !
I was playing around tonight with going to other team websites. Just wanted to impress you all w/my knowledge and look into anything I could find about Ruud.
There are a lot of fans in Tenn frustrated and angry with us - from Kearse to "He, who's name we shall not speaketh" to Washburn.
Bunch of them hoping "He, who's name we shall not speaketh" will find his way back to the Tenn Valley.
Dullas folks are really PO'd - about a lot of things - from the top on down.
Happy to be Green
Alrighty... my fellow liberated BORED members... ding dong the witch is dead... long live your KOH : ) And wiff that I am off to eat dinner with my royal family... enjoy the sweet FRRRRRREEEEEEEDOOOOOM!!!
There's noooo F*****N way were worse off next year then the last...PERIOD!!! Perfect storm ....in the wrong direction!Turnovers ,the big killer,RZ the other...ect..I could mention JC but I wont,couple right moves and we're in it....
Saw an interview on the NFL32 network w/ Diehl from NY. THey asked hiom which NFC East team most concerned him for coming season. Said it was Dullas.
@Kent Phil 1967 I am sad for Davey Jones, too... I remember him more as a Broadway musical performer...but he was good with the Monkees, too...
@n.akuatuta Hey Nathalie ...... I like the new avatar .......... Kinda Groovy!!!
@dutchrubb Damn it's a sad day when Wood gets the better of youse... Clear sign you should hang em up... jus sayin
@Brozer8 Even Syphillus cannot survive GreatFat.
@Brozer8 You're a big boy, you can figure it out. No spoon feeding in here, no sir!
@Blasphemizer The end of that first half was the reason I can't watch the NBA. That offensive foul on Lou was embarrassing. Stick wiff wrestling it's less fixed
@Blasphemizer Blas!!!!!! Which muppet are youse?
@atvcar You'll have to explain KOH some day? I know HOA and BMOC.Koh....?
@southphillyben welp, I will say the schedule last year was in our favor more so than it appears next years looks... but that might not be true either... jus sayin
@Palm Feathers Who's the King?
@Palm Feathers Diehl can think what he likes, but we all know the Eagles will handle the East like they handled it last year, easily.
@n.akuatuta He'll be back to chew out some ass, rest assured.
@atvcar @dutchrubb Don't expect it to happen. Just like in later muppet projects like the show "Muppets Tonight" which was a later Hensen project............Statler and Waldorf were still there, and they said after 40 years.................only now they were commenting from the "assisted living facility", instead of the balcony.
GreatFat's blood may in fax be the vaccine to every known disease and virus known to man or monkey,....since he's had everyting,...and has survived.
Unfortunately, anyone receiving a dose of his blood, to cure gonahreeer, or malarier, or HIV or whatnots,....will instantly have a cholesterol count of 690,...and will immediately have a heart attack and croak.
No big whoop.
@JerkyIz also a lazy boy.
But to be cereal, I DID read back all the posts I misseded,....and the posts are rollin' along rollin' along,...and then BLAM, WW3 starts ! It's like there's some missing posts er sumptin',... I didn't see a Bri-post in here at all,...and I only saw a couple over yonder, that had nuttin' to do wiff his status here.
Oh well,...as the Portugeese say,...Say La V.
We were talking earlier about if EEB posters were Muppets, who we would all be. Since you did such a good job on that radio show the other week...........gonna put you down for The Muppet Newsman. YWIA
@southphillyben king of the hill... the suicide pool the BORED participated in last year... won by yours truly.
I hate that team but credit where it is due - they 'bring it'.
I don't deny or hold back any of the admiration I have for them.
Diehl is supposed to be a smart guy w/respected opinion.
Read above VERY carefully - yes we have played them very well. It is a tribute to the Victor when the Vanquished is held in high regard (and in this case - righfully so).
This puts more value in what we've accomplished. This is all good - I think it's easier to fly under the radar then be in the spotlight and take every pot shot anyone can usher up.
Anyone can kiss the school tramp - the kiss from the Prom Queen means so much more.
@Jerky i might be the only one liking the wide nine.
@n.akuatuta barring the wide 9 of course...
@Brozer8 Yeah, that may be true, but it is his secret to growing good nite-crawlers.