It's almost Draft time and only hours before the MACH 10 deadline (12 noon Wednesday EST) for Eagles fans to submit their entries. Exciting though it is for us all, for JB "The Sage" and GK Brizer it's also just another rodeo.
Past winners of the official MACH 10 challenge have included M. "Fanny" Harris (twice), Leo Pizzini, Brizer himself and JB "The Sage"... But the MACH 10 owes its origin to Brizer's foresight in the early days of Dave Spadaro's "On The Inside" fan gallery at PE.com. Brizer teamed up with JB to anchor the comments section with the sacred charter to "enlighten and entertain" Eagles fans willing to discipline their presumed football knowledge. And starting way back when the Eagles were still relatively new to the internet as a PR medium, these guys are still bringing it, and EEB is lucky to be able to share them with Spadaro's gang.
JB "The Sage" (standing) and GK Brizer share some final Draft and scouting tips prior to Thursday night's Big Rodeo... the boys are preparing a live Draft broadcast here with JB remaining on location at his ranch in Austin, Texas.
A proper tribute will be paid to the now-retired Brian Dawkins by the Eagles during a home-game later this year.
Some folks think the Eagles will be looking to draft a strong safety in the 1st Round. I'm not feeling it.
By the way, here's a fact some may not know about Dawkins. By several accounts of various teammates, he was perhaps the quietest Eagle in the clubhouse and locker room during the week of a game, and also extremely low-key on the practice field.
Who's there now: Nate Allen (starter FS), Jaiquawn Jarrett (starter SS), Kurt Coleman, Colt Anderson, Tom Nelson... Why it's a problem: The Eagles haven't had a Pro Bowl-quality safety since Brian Dawkins, who retired on Monday, was starring for the team from 1996-2008. Allen was still recovering from a 2010 knee injury last season but should be fully recovered. Jarrett, last year's second-round draft pick, struggled to learn the system. Coleman suffered a partially torn biceps late last season after collecting a team-high four interceptions. Colt Anderson is coming back from an ACL injury.
Even when all were healthy, there were occasional lapses in communication, coverage and tackling which cost the Eagles big-time.
In the end we may discover the real problem at safety is more about better coaching and in-game leadership than it is about personnel.
But until then, personnel remains the scapegoat.
The best players available at safety:
1. Mark Barron, Alabama: 6-foot-1, 213-pounder is widely considered the best safety in the draft this year, despite having had double hernia surgery in February.
2. Harrison Smith, Notre Dame: 6-2, 213-pounder owns both the talent and leadership qualities to be a top-flight safety.
3. George Iloka, Boise State: 6-3, 225-pounder has the athletic ability to play in the NFL but needs work on tackling.
Barron may be the only safety worth drafting in the first round but may not be on the board when the Eagles pick at No. 15. I can't see the Eagles trading valuable picks later to move up to get Barron---or any other safety in the first round, for that matter.
JB "The Sage" added some perspective to the current debate about packaging CB Asante Samuel in a trade to move up to get a safety prospect:
"The #1 rule of building a franchise.... is to locate cheap b/u's that can play at a similar level as the high priced starter.... and make the switch... if feasible. There is no reason not to check out what you could get for #22 (Samuel).... but to dump him cause we don't want him... doesn't make any sense."
And then this: "Also... nary a person has said the FO wants to get rid of him... they are just shopping him... like any good franchise would do."
And some more revealing insights from "The Sage" ---and something you can drop on your friends who think they know Eagles football but really don't...
[To people who complain about Nnamdi Asomugha as a corner]... "Our problem wasnt CB last year. Aso was totally shut-down from that [strongside] spot last year. Wiped out TE's."
[To people who want a strong press coverage from corners and a safety]... "Guys like Coleman and Jarrett aren't press man S's.... they are deep half Zone S's....and who says we want to press? I see tons of Zone."
[To people who say we need a safety who can do it all]..."Everyone says...'Oh, Barron is a solid all around player... but he doesn't do anything exceptionally well.' The thing is... you are only as good as your weakest link. There's been plenty of guys that could cover... tackle... or play the run... but few that could do it all."
Looking at this Asante trade pedagogically wiff a swipe of pragmatism,..one often needs to take a step back,.....to move forward two paces. Whoswiffme?
Falcons acquired CB Asante Samuel from the Eagles in exchange for a late-round draft pick.
The pick is believed to be a 2012 sixth-rounder (6.22), leaving Atlanta with just five selections in the 2012 draft, and none before the 55th choice. Samuel will presumably slide in at left cornerback, with Brent Grimes seeing slot work and Dunta Robinson manning the right side. Still a playmaker at age 31, Samuel has earned a Pro Bowl berth in four of the past five seasons while averaging 6.5 interceptions over the last six. The Falcons haven't upgraded their pass rush much, but they absolutely have a good-looking secondary.
My question... Why did we pay so much for Ryans under similar circumstances (doesn't fit system, inj history) and then ending up with similar salary? We give up a 4th and 6th?
maybe, the sensible posture in this whole asante thing is to trust evergreen. there must have been something we don't know (asante not restructuring if he stayed, or something else) that made evergreen decide it was better than to keep him.
right now though, it's hard to swallow.
dominique you better get cracking, is all i have to say.
Dumbass... that whole long post says that the giants had 18 players acquired through fa, udfa, or waivers. Eli was technically acquired in a trade.
PLAYER POSITION ACQUIRED IN HOW ACQUIRED Prince Amukamara CB 2011 Drafted in the first round; played at Nebraska David Baas C 2011 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on July 29; played at Michigan Jake Ballard TE 2010 Promoted from the practice squad on Dec. 16; played at Ohio State Ramses Barden WR 2009 Drafted in the third round; played at Cal Poly Travis Beckum TE 2009 Drafted in the third round; played at Wisconsin Rocky Bernard DT 2011 Re-signed on Aug. 4; played at Texas A&M Chase Blackburn LB 2011 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on Nov. 30; played at Akron Will Blackmon PR 2011 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on Nov. 23; played at Boston College Michael Boley LB 2009 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on Feb. 28; played at Southern Mississippi Kevin Boothe OL 2011 Re-signed on July 30; played at Cornell Ahmad Bradshaw RB 2007 Drafted in the seventh round; played at Marshall James Brewer OL 2011 Drafted in the fourth round; played at Indiana Chris Canty DT 2009 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on Mar. 1; played at Virginia David Carr QB 2011 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on Aug. 1; played at Fresno State Jim Cordle C 2011 Promoted from the practice squad on Sept. 4; played at Ohio State Victor Cruz WR 2010 Signed as an undrafted free agent on Apr. 25; played at Massachusetts Zak DeOssie LS 2007 Drafted in the fourth round; played at Brown David Diehl T 2003 Drafted in the fifth round; played at Illinois Deon Grant S 2011 Re-signed on Aug. 16; played at Tennessee Mark Herzlich LB 2011 Signed as an undrafted free agent on July 28; played at Boston College Henry Hynoski FB 2011 Signed as an undrafted free agent on July 28; played at Pittsburgh Brandon Jacobs RB 2005 Drafted in the fifth round; played at So. Illinois Jerrel Jernigan WR 2011 Drafted in the third round; played at Troy Greg Jones LB 2011 Drafted in the sixth round; played at Michigan State Linval Joseph DT 2010 Drafted in the second round; played at East Carolina Jimmy Kennedy DT 2011 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on Aug. 23; played at Penn State Mathias Kiwanuka LB 2006 Drafted in the first round; played at Boston College Eli Manning QB 2004 Acquired in a draft day trade from the Chargers; played at Ole Miss Mario Manningham WR 2008 Drafted in the third round; played at Michigan Derrick Martin S 2011 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on Aug. 16; played at Wyoming Kareem McKenzie T 2005 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on Mar. 4; played at Penn State Hakeem Nicks WR 2009 Drafted in the first round; played at North Carolina Bear Pascoe TE 2011 Re-signed on July 30; played at Fresno State Spencer Paysinger LB 2011 Signed as an undrafted free agent on July 28; played at Oregon Mitch Petrus OL 2010 Drafted in the fifth round; played at Arkansas Kenny Phillips S 2008 Drafted in the first round; played at Miami Jason Pierre-Paul DE 2010 Drafted in the first round; played at South Florida Antrel Rolle S 2010 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on Mar. 5; played at Miami Aaron Ross CB 2007 Drafted in the first round; played at Texas Tyler Sash S 2011 Drafted in the sixth round; played at Iowa Da'Rel Scott RB 2011 Drafted in the seventh round; played at Maryland Chris Snee G 2004 Drafted in the second round; played at Boston College Devin Thomas ST 2010 Awarded off waivers on Nov. 23; played at Michigan State Dave Tollefson DE 2011 Re-signed on Aug. 5; played at Northwest Missouri State Justin Trattou DE 2011 Activated from the practice squad on Nov. 26; played at Florida Justin Tuck DE 2005 Drafted in the third round; played at Notre Dame Lawrence Tynes K 2008 Re-signed on Feb. 11; played at Troy Tony Ugoh OL 2011 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on Dec. 7; played at Arkansas Osi Umenyiora DE 2003 Drafted in the second round; played at Troy D.J. Ware RB 2007 Signed off the Jets' practice squad on Dec. 4; played at Georgia Steve Weatherford P 2011 Signed as an unrestricted free agent on July 30; played at Illinois Corey Webster CB 2005 Drafted in the second round; played at LSU Jacquian Williams LB 2011 Drafted in the sixth round; played at South Florida
ATV--you are such a loser! Did it occur to you that Eagles started a bunch of also ran rookies because they had nothing else:
Other teams had established starters and didn't need to start their raw rookies.
The Giants, for one, never start rookies unless necessary.
I stated previously, and reiterate, you have topped Kene as chief manipulator on this board.
You are a psychiatrist's font of neurosis.
The Philadelphia Inquirer reports that the Falcons have agreed to terms with CB Asante Samuel on a three-year, $18.5 million contract.
The trade is all but complete. Samuel's old deal had $21.3 million over two years remaining in base salary alone, so he's accepting a sizable pay cut from that contract. The Falcons are expected to throw a late-round pick Philly's way.
Adam Caplans latest mock......http://thesidelineview.com/columns/draft/nfl-mock-draft-2012-2-adam-caplan
According to ESPN New York's Rich Cimini, the Jets called Alabama RB Trent Richardson Sunday to verify his contact info "just in case" they trade up for him.
This sounds like a juicy rumor on the surface, but it's common practice for teams leading up to the draft. The Jets are believed to be in the mix to trade up, but they'd have to surrender an awful lot to move into the top-five or six picks for Richardson. He's expected to be a Brown at No. 4 overall.
According to my latest data,..approximately 200 players have been the GF's boy,.one time or another,.since 2011. You can't make that up!!!!!..CHEEEEZZZ!!
@briview Not as if there's a choice.... It isn't the trading him... It's the level of compensation methinks most dislike
@tboned208 They said the same thing last year about the iggles.. How did that work out for our secondary?
@Spiffo Haven't seen much to make a statement like that.. And he entire secondary looked bad last year... Including Aso and Lips at various times
@atvcar betting on a healed Achilles and a return to a pro bowl LBer
@fieldsr69 The first question is why didn't the Eagles restructure his deal like that? Perhaps they don't think he fits anymore. Personally, I disagree with that opinion
@sunbutts haha,..this post is an absurd contradiction! Wattadope! This guy has a brain in formalin.
@sunbutts And as I stated don't let facts get in the way of your argument or counting... By the way, the story also counted backups on other teams or out of the league... Sure you just missed that part?
@sunbutts and your still a dik
@tboned208 big whoop.. probably will be sidelined with a pulled hammy by then
@briview at least 200
@tboned208 But Asante was a pro bowler and not nearly as serious an inj... Shouldn't that at least net a similar draft pick?
@tboned208 Well for the positions they play it works for both... A neck inj for a MIKE might be all she wrote... Same for an Achilles for a CB
@atvcar if I were to compare injuries.....the neck is more liable to re-occur then the achilles
@tboned208 @Kenemeka I think it was a combination of things. Not the least of which is getting drc on the field.